Though we may not see eye to eye I do invite one day soon for a Skype “tea time” and discuss these issues I have, since I don’t speak for all of the Pagansphere. Since I don’t know you, I would love to have the opportunity to do so. I’m not a rude person nor will I make any conservation in fight. I despise fighting. “An eye for an eye makes the world blind.” So you can either accept my olive branch and plan a virtual meeting or ignore this attempt at understanding someone who I tend to disagree with. I’d rather not assume negative things about people that may in reality be in possession of a good heart. So please let me via a comment on here on what you wish to do or ignore it. Your choice.
Cheers and good tidings.
In this day and age of secularism and reason, a lot of us polytheists are stuck between a rock (monotheists) and a hard place (militant atheists). These two aspects of our society believe that our beliefs are silly and wrong, which is a statement of absolute truth according to their worldview. The problem with absolute truths is that they are always based on faith and not evidence. It’s faith to say that many Gods exist or only one God exists and it is also faith to state that no Gods exist because if the absence of evidence to prove either claim is considered faith then so should it be said of the atheist hypothesis of no Gods. Of course, atheists will argue that their hypothesis isn’t a hypothesis based on faith, but rather fact. In order to know the absolute truth of either God(s) existing or not would require a feat only a demigod is capable of: resurrection from death and thus far no one with these past few centuries can claim that mantle, so if no one among us, polytheists, monotheists and atheists, haven’t returned from the dead then none of us know the absolute truth of the existence or nature of the Gods and thus it’s based wholly on faith alone and nothing more. To say otherwise is intellectual dishonesty.
The militant atheists are no better than the militant monotheists who protest funerals of soldiers, who deny basic rights to the LGBT community and believe without any questioning that their beliefs are rooted in truth. When you put Richard Dawkins next to Pat Robertson, though their beliefs differ, their tactics do not differ in any way. They belittle the heretics and assume that the non-believers of their faith are nothing more than ignorant trolls that are better off hiding in caves. They question nothing of their own beliefs due to the fact that they believe they are right and rooted deeply into the truth of the matter.
I firmly question everything as someone that is a student in the sciences and sometimes I have my problems with my faith, but never can I become an atheist because nothing is certain. And never do I feel that because I’m a student of the sciences that means I should automatically become an atheist. That’s nothing more than a herd mentality that is also seen in many religious cults, believe this way and nothing else. I do, however, keep my religion separate from my scientific views. Since science can neither prove nor disprove the supernatural there’s no reason for my faith to be intertwined with my scientific views and vice versa. To anyone who would ever suggest that I should get out of the science field because of my faith I can only say, look inwards at the level ignorance you have shown and wonder, aloud, if maybe you need to step away from science and not tarnish it with your closed mind. Yes, no one should deny evolution, especially the teaching of, due to religious views, but one should not deny exploration of the world via science because someone believes differently than you. Isn’t this what Galileo and other early scientists faced when their facts conflicted with the monotheist world view? How dare you then do as the monotheists have done and become the ignorance you so rightly want to get rid of. Using ignorance to get rid of ignorance equates to nothing (1-1=0)
To many unbelievers, atheists and monotheists alike, the fact that evilness exists in the world is a good argument for there not being god(s), but I feel this is inadequate considering the Gods aren’t entirely custodians of all things man. Even within the Christian religion does it give man dominion all things material so why would their God intercede every single day to save humans? The Gods treat us like our parents do in that when we do something stupid it is up to us to fix, not our parents. As adults and as human beings birthed by the Gods we have free will which we savor with each breath we take and the Gods, like our parents, aren’t blind to our lust of individualism and liberty. In fact, the Gods encourage it regularly without the iron-fisted intervention the Christians expect from their God. If we ask, aka pray, for the Gods to help they will, but up to a point since any further would tread over the free will we enjoy. To ask for such things as riches wouldn’t bestow riches instantly, but muse into your mind an idea that will lead to such, if you truly listen for it.
If the Gods intervened daily to stop evilness then how in the name of the Gods would we even know how to live, how to survive, how to even innovate in order to eradicate disease? We wouldn’t for all things would be provided for by the Gods, but Gods aren’t tyrants. Instead, they give us free will and liberty to do stupid evil things and to figure out why we do stupid evil things and then to make sure that we stop stupid evil things from happening in the future because that is the responsibility we have to endure in order to remain free beings as a whole. If the atheists want proof of the existence of the Gods and the Christians want an overbearing God to rule over all, then so be it unto them, but not the rest of us who truly adore freedom even with the consequences that tend be either good or bad. That’s life and that’s how the Gods created it.
Ever since I was a child I always had a deep love for anything science. Not a day would go by where you wouldn’t find me with my face stuffed in a science book or magazine. But religion was nothing to me then. I never cared one or another until I got older and started delving into the more esoteric. Despite that I started becoming more religious along the pagan path my understanding and appreciation for science hasn’t wavered. My religious beliefs, no matter what new discovery is made hasn’t killed my religious beliefs either. So the question is how can I accept religion while accepting science in the same breath? For me it’s relatively easy and seeing those who are religious deny science fact is an oddity to me. Why would science destroy your religious convictions? Nothing that I have read has stated as a matter of fact that the Gods don’t exist. Sure, you can read the convincing thesis of Richard Dawkins God Delusion book, but it’s an opinion, not fact much like any other atheist claim of the non-existence of deity. Conversely, theists have no evidence either for their convictions. It’s all faith and opinion that something divine exists or not no matter what atheists like to say.
The evolution issue is silly for Christians to argue against because we do not live in a static planet let alone a static universe meaning it’s all ever changing. So if the Gods, in their all omnipotent glory, created an ever changing world, but didn’t give living creatures the built-in ability to evolve along with their environment than what chances of survival would their creations have in the long run? None. So it only makes sense that evolution exists as a means for living creatures to survive in a world and universe that is constantly changing daily. As the atheist points to evolution as a reason to not believe in deity, I point to it as a reason to believe, but that is just my opinion much like their opinion that evolution disproves deity.
I accept everything science proves and if it happens to garner the advance technology that can disprove deity once and for all with no questioning it than I’ll accept it, but I doubt any such technology will be made. Atheists can make their claims and those who are religious can continue to do as well, but we can’t become closed-minded fools in the process like those evangelical Christians and Richard Dawkins indulge in daily.