It’s always funny to see Christians talk about persecution especially when they were last persecuted around 300 CE. Afterwards, they were the ones rampaging and persecuting against pagans for centuries. Now, they’re pulling the victim card while stating that “we need to get back to our Christian roots with Christian public school education.” Sorry to say, but theocracies don’t work out as they plan. Instead of providing Heaven on Earth, it becomes Hell on Earth when people believe they are doing “Gods” work. YOu can’t state you are for liberty and freedom while calling for the 10 Commandments to be the rule of the land. Commandment #1 especially puts a halt on that whole idea of freedom and liberty. If people aren’t given the right to believe in one God, many Gods or no Gods, then you don’t have freedom, you have tyranny.
Wild Bill for America is the prime example of one of those supposedly freedom loving Americans who deep down want a theocracy even though he denies such. When you vociferously call for Christian “education” in public schools and want the 10 Commandments to be the law of the land, I believe that’s proof enough of wanting a Christian theocracy in charge of our country.
With the ascendancy of the Trump Presidency, we ought to be vigilant about what takes place in the United States. How far will Trump pander to the evangelicals who helped him into power? If he wants to retain his position in American politics, it’s not inconceivable that Trump will do what it takes to keep his power. So, it’s up to us Americans to make sure that the swing to extremism doesn’t occur.
In this day and age of secularism and reason, a lot of us polytheists are stuck between a rock (monotheists) and a hard place (militant atheists). These two aspects of our society believe that our beliefs are silly and wrong, which is a statement of absolute truth according to their worldview. The problem with absolute truths is that they are always based on faith and not evidence. It’s faith to say that many Gods exist or only one God exists and it is also faith to state that no Gods exist because if the absence of evidence to prove either claim is considered faith then so should it be said of the atheist hypothesis of no Gods. Of course, atheists will argue that their hypothesis isn’t a hypothesis based on faith, but rather fact. In order to know the absolute truth of either God(s) existing or not would require a feat only a demigod is capable of: resurrection from death and thus far no one with these past few centuries can claim that mantle, so if no one among us, polytheists, monotheists and atheists, haven’t returned from the dead then none of us know the absolute truth of the existence or nature of the Gods and thus it’s based wholly on faith alone and nothing more. To say otherwise is intellectual dishonesty.
The militant atheists are no better than the militant monotheists who protest funerals of soldiers, who deny basic rights to the LGBT community and believe without any questioning that their beliefs are rooted in truth. When you put Richard Dawkins next to Pat Robertson, though their beliefs differ, their tactics do not differ in any way. They belittle the heretics and assume that the non-believers of their faith are nothing more than ignorant trolls that are better off hiding in caves. They question nothing of their own beliefs due to the fact that they believe they are right and rooted deeply into the truth of the matter.
I firmly question everything as someone that is a student in the sciences and sometimes I have my problems with my faith, but never can I become an atheist because nothing is certain. And never do I feel that because I’m a student of the sciences that means I should automatically become an atheist. That’s nothing more than a herd mentality that is also seen in many religious cults, believe this way and nothing else. I do, however, keep my religion separate from my scientific views. Since science can neither prove nor disprove the supernatural there’s no reason for my faith to be intertwined with my scientific views and vice versa. To anyone who would ever suggest that I should get out of the science field because of my faith I can only say, look inwards at the level ignorance you have shown and wonder, aloud, if maybe you need to step away from science and not tarnish it with your closed mind. Yes, no one should deny evolution, especially the teaching of, due to religious views, but one should not deny exploration of the world via science because someone believes differently than you. Isn’t this what Galileo and other early scientists faced when their facts conflicted with the monotheist world view? How dare you then do as the monotheists have done and become the ignorance you so rightly want to get rid of. Using ignorance to get rid of ignorance equates to nothing (1-1=0)
As a current student in the sciences and a polytheistic heathen, this issue strikes deep into my core. Personally, my ability to rationalize what science offers on the table and my religious beliefs are kept compartmentalized into their respective corners of psyche. Science, as we have been taught, explains how the natural world works. Since the Gods, spirits and anything otherworldly is beyond science, beyond the natural and hence supernatural, science can not and will never prove that the supernatural exists or not. No scientific instrument nor method of observation has been formulated specifically for the supernatural, so for a theist or an atheist say that via science the truth is absolutely known. The truth isn’t absolutely known and anyone who states such is basing it off of faith and not fact. Yes, that includes atheism because to state the unknowable as truth is faith in such a personally accepted truth.
People state that there is a war between science and religion and personally I think that’s absolute hokum drummed up by anti-science or anti-religious zealots out there who haven’t the capacity to have an open mind not a civil discussion on how science can thrive even though one is religious. It’s a false dichotomy to believe because is in the science field they must be an atheist or that if someone is religious that they can’t accept scientific facts. If these assertions were true we would’ve shunned Issac Newton and Francis Collins (former head of the Human Genome Project and current director of the National Health Institute), but fortunately we haven’t shunned these folks and our understanding of the natural world is furthered because of them. The only war is in the minds of vapid folks who can’t grasp that people can accept science and their religious beliefs without either side being compromised. So in essence, keep your beliefs, whether it’s theistic or atheistic, out of science. Period. No personal religious/non-religious beliefs need to be injected into science because science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of the supernatural.
Science doesn’t need to be at war with religion and vice versa. People like Richard Dawkins need to stop with their zealotry and step back and realize they are no better than the fundamentalists who want to throw science out the window because it doesn’t adhere to their Young Earth Creationism (Francis Collins doesn’t adhere to this nonsense, but still is a Christian…interesting).
To many unbelievers, atheists and monotheists alike, the fact that evilness exists in the world is a good argument for there not being god(s), but I feel this is inadequate considering the Gods aren’t entirely custodians of all things man. Even within the Christian religion does it give man dominion all things material so why would their God intercede every single day to save humans? The Gods treat us like our parents do in that when we do something stupid it is up to us to fix, not our parents. As adults and as human beings birthed by the Gods we have free will which we savor with each breath we take and the Gods, like our parents, aren’t blind to our lust of individualism and liberty. In fact, the Gods encourage it regularly without the iron-fisted intervention the Christians expect from their God. If we ask, aka pray, for the Gods to help they will, but up to a point since any further would tread over the free will we enjoy. To ask for such things as riches wouldn’t bestow riches instantly, but muse into your mind an idea that will lead to such, if you truly listen for it.
If the Gods intervened daily to stop evilness then how in the name of the Gods would we even know how to live, how to survive, how to even innovate in order to eradicate disease? We wouldn’t for all things would be provided for by the Gods, but Gods aren’t tyrants. Instead, they give us free will and liberty to do stupid evil things and to figure out why we do stupid evil things and then to make sure that we stop stupid evil things from happening in the future because that is the responsibility we have to endure in order to remain free beings as a whole. If the atheists want proof of the existence of the Gods and the Christians want an overbearing God to rule over all, then so be it unto them, but not the rest of us who truly adore freedom even with the consequences that tend be either good or bad. That’s life and that’s how the Gods created it.
Ever since I was a child I always had a deep love for anything science. Not a day would go by where you wouldn’t find me with my face stuffed in a science book or magazine. But religion was nothing to me then. I never cared one or another until I got older and started delving into the more esoteric. Despite that I started becoming more religious along the pagan path my understanding and appreciation for science hasn’t wavered. My religious beliefs, no matter what new discovery is made hasn’t killed my religious beliefs either. So the question is how can I accept religion while accepting science in the same breath? For me it’s relatively easy and seeing those who are religious deny science fact is an oddity to me. Why would science destroy your religious convictions? Nothing that I have read has stated as a matter of fact that the Gods don’t exist. Sure, you can read the convincing thesis of Richard Dawkins God Delusion book, but it’s an opinion, not fact much like any other atheist claim of the non-existence of deity. Conversely, theists have no evidence either for their convictions. It’s all faith and opinion that something divine exists or not no matter what atheists like to say.
The evolution issue is silly for Christians to argue against because we do not live in a static planet let alone a static universe meaning it’s all ever changing. So if the Gods, in their all omnipotent glory, created an ever changing world, but didn’t give living creatures the built-in ability to evolve along with their environment than what chances of survival would their creations have in the long run? None. So it only makes sense that evolution exists as a means for living creatures to survive in a world and universe that is constantly changing daily. As the atheist points to evolution as a reason to not believe in deity, I point to it as a reason to believe, but that is just my opinion much like their opinion that evolution disproves deity.
I accept everything science proves and if it happens to garner the advance technology that can disprove deity once and for all with no questioning it than I’ll accept it, but I doubt any such technology will be made. Atheists can make their claims and those who are religious can continue to do as well, but we can’t become closed-minded fools in the process like those evangelical Christians and Richard Dawkins indulge in daily.